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ANOTHER WAY

Another Way is a weekly podcast about how we can get reforming and improving our democracy front and center. This season, Larry Lessig and the Equal Citizens team will be talking to politicians, authors, activists, and more to bring you in-depth information about the For The People Act, the most significant fair elections bill in generations, and what you can do to help pass it. Subscribe using the tools on this page, or listen to episodes below.

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LATEST EPISODES

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S7E3: Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr.

S7E3: Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr.

Lessig's conversation with Ben Hepburn continues, this time about Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music:Roundpine by Blue Dot SessionsNoe Noe by Blue Dot SessionsVengeful by Blue Dot Sessions...

S7E3: Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr.

S7E2: Continuing a Conversation with Ben Hepburn

In this second episode, Ben Hepburn and Lessig continue to see where we can find common ground in our understanding of the current administration. Are we on the left too pessimistic? Is the other side too optimistic?  Become a Patreon subscriber:...

S7E3: Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr.

S7E1: Common Ground?

In this season, Lessig will have a conversation with Ben Hepburn, a friend from high school, whose politics is not Lessig's. The plan for the season is to check in regularly about the latest questions raised by the new Trump administration, and see whether a...

PAST EPISODES

S5E27: Conclusion

S5E27: Conclusion

For this final episode of Season 5, Lessig speaks to TedX Berlin about AI, democracy, and the future. You can watch a video recording of this TedX talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zYHqg1PwoQ Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens...

S5E26: Lifeboats: Jon Stever

S5E26: Lifeboats: Jon Stever

In 2020, in the middle of a pandemic, Jon Stever launched an extraordinary experiment to draw together a representative sample of the world to discuss the climate and ecological crisis the world is facing. In this conversation, I talk to him about how he and his team...

S5E25: Lifeboats: David Farrell

S5E25: Lifeboats: David Farrell

Ireland has been perhaps the most impressive example of citizen assemblies addressing national issues in a new and edifying way. David Farrell is an academic who has studied the Irish example. I talk with him about what Ireland can teach the rest of the world. Become...

S5E23: Lifeboats: Claudia Chwalisz

S5E23: Lifeboats: Claudia Chwalisz

Claudia Chwalisz is a social entrepreneur, spreading the gospel of citizen assemblies. In this episode we talk to her about citizens assemblies' potential and how they are spreading across the world. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens...

S5E22: Lifeboats: Kim Polese

S5E22: Lifeboats: Kim Polese

Not all AI is democracy ending AI. Some can support democracy and make it better. In this episode, I talk to Kim Polese, whose career launching transformative technologies (beginning with Java) has landed with a democracy enhancing AI, CrowdSmart. We talk about its...

S5E21: Lifeboats: David Van Reybrouck

S5E21: Lifeboats: David Van Reybrouck

David Van Reybrouck's book, Against Elections, helped crystalize a movement for citizen assemblies. In my conversation with him, we talk about the origin of this idea, and how it could complement democracy. Become a Patreon subscriber:...

S5E20: Lifeboats: Chloe Maxim / Canyon Woodward

S5E20: Lifeboats: Chloe Maxim / Canyon Woodward

Chloe Maxim and Canyon Woodward built a people focused movement in rural Maine to change the way politics works. I talk to them about their book, Dirt Road Revival, and the organization they've launched, DirtRoadOrganizing.org, aiming to change how we do politics, for...

S5E19: Lifeboats: Eli Pariser

S5E19: Lifeboats: Eli Pariser

Eli Pariser, Executive Director of MoveOn at 23, and founder of UpWorthy, talks to me about creating healthy online spaces, and democratic activism that builds up democracy rather than tearing it down. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens...

S5E18: Lifeboats: Josh Greene

S5E18: Lifeboats: Josh Greene

Jennifer Pahlka, founder of the Code for America and former Deputy CTO, talks with me about improving digital governmental capacity, working from her new book, Recoding America: Why Government is Failing in the Digital Era and How We Can Do Better. Become a Patreon...

S5E17: Lifeboats: Jennifer Pahlka

S5E17: Lifeboats: Jennifer Pahlka

Jennifer Pahlka, founder of the Code for America and former Deputy CTO, talks with me about improving digital governmental capacity, working from her new book, Recoding America: Why Government is Failing in the Digital Era and How We Can Do Better. Become a Patreon...

S5E16: Lifeboats: Brink Lindsey

S5E16: Lifeboats: Brink Lindsey

Our first lifeboat is hope — hope that government could actually do good. Brink Lindsey, formerly of the Cato Institute, and now Director of the Open Society Project at the Niskanen Center, talks to me about governmental capacity, and how we could make it better....

S5E15: Lifeboats: Intro

S5E15: Lifeboats: Intro

We can make our unrepresentative representative democracy representative. But AI may mean that's not enough. This episode introduces the final section of this season — lifeboats: the changes we could make to make it so democracy can survive. Become a Patreon...

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SERIES: ANOTHER WAY TO ELECT A PRESIDENT

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ANOTHER WAY STORIES

Another Way Stories, formerly known as Seasons One and Two of Another Way, was recenlty established as a separate podcast meant to be consumed as a continuous story in chronological order. Please note: the arguments in Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.

About Another Way Stories

Can we make ending corruption and strengthening democracy the number one priority in 2020? Can we get to POTUS1?

That’s the challenge that has inspired this podcast by Equal Citizens founder Lawrence Lessig. In these first two seasons on Another Way, Larry and the Equal Citizens team bring you weekly conversations about what’s wrong with our democracy, how to fix it, and how to get candidates for President talking about those issues so that we can make this issue number one in the campaign. HR1 was a first step. Now we need POTUS1.

These are the conversation that the politicians aren’t giving us on their own. That’s precisely why we citizens must bring this issue to them. Please join us.

SEASON ONE

 

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Introducing: Another Way

This is Larry Lessig. Anyone paying attention can see that we’re gearing up for a train wreck in 2020, as both political parties map out an increasingly partisan choice for America — as if we are just a nation divided, with nothing that we share in common....

Episode 1: Aiming for Something Different

Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions It’s pretty clear how things are going to happen. In January, whatever the outcome in the 2018 election, Democrats are going to begin to vie in earnest to...

Episode 2: How Different Has Been Done

Music: Slow Line Stomp by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions Clay Pawn Shop by Blue Dot Sessions Transcript: This is Larry Lessig and this is the second episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

Episode 3: A Different (Kind of Control of) Congress

Transcript The single most unrecognized fact in American politics today is not how divided we are, but how united we are. This is Larry Lessig and this is the third episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I described what everyone knows: that...

Episode 4: A Different Kind of President

Title: A different kind of President Transcript: In 1864, in the middle of our “great Civil War,” America held a presidential election. Lincoln was President. None were confident, especially his supporters, that he would be re-elected. Indeed without the...

Episode 5: How America Beats Donald

Title How America Beats Donald Transcript Drain the swamp and make America great again. Let me repeat it. Drain the swamp and make America great again. ——— This is Larry Lessig and this is the fifth episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

SEASON TWO

*Please note: the arguments in this Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.*

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Introducing: Another Way Stories Season Two

There’s a scholar, an activist, a leader, a former Labor Secretary, a citizen, and a friend — Robert Reich — who has been trash-talking the idea of a convention to propose amendments to our Constitution. That fact really bothers me.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU...

S2E1: How Constitutions Get Changed

The Constitution of the United States specifies the rules for its own amendment. Article V lays out those rules. An amendment must first be proposed and once proposed, adopted or, as the Constitution says, ratified. More than 11,000 amendments have been...

S2E2: That Conventions Terrify

This is Larry Lessig, and this is Episode 2 of Season 2 of the podcast Another Way. In the first episode, I described two ways that the Constitution allows that amendments to the Constitution might be proposed. Only one of those two ways of proposing...

S2E3: Why Conventions Terrify

“This would be chaos.” An Article V convention would be “chaos.” Or so says the great Robert Reich in the video that has triggered this season of Another Way.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU CAN HELP SUPPORT ANOTHER WAY If you've saved your payment information with...

S2E4: Why Conventions Should NOT Terrify

So do we really need an Article V Convention? This should be the only real question that should trouble Americans just now. Do we need a different way to propose amendments to the Constitution? Do we need amendments to our Constitution at all?OTHER...

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