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    ANOTHER WAY

    Another Way is a weekly podcast about how we can get reforming and improving our democracy front and center in the upcoming election. This season, Larry Lessig and the Equal Citizens team will be talking to presidential candidates, authors, activists, and more to bring you in-depth information about the most important issues in our democracy, and to let you know who can finally make change happen. The goal is to get to POTUS1—that is, to have a presidential candidate who makes ending legal corruption and strengthening our democracy the first priority of any administration. Subscribe using the tools on this page, or listen to episodes below.

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    LATEST EPISODES

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    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Title The Fight For Voting Rights Reform For this week's episode, we are re-broadcasting the audio of an Equal Citizens event held on March 31st, 2021 entitled, "The Fight For Voting Rights Reform: The Path To H.R. 1 and H.R. 4". The event featured Lawrence Lessig...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman

    Title Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman Lawrence Lessig speaks with Lee Drutman, senior fellow in the Political Reform program at New America. The two discuss the history of the U.S. political party system, polarization and partisanship, reform, and...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp

    Title Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Weston Wamp, senior political strategist for Issue One and host of the podcast, Swamp Stories. The two discuss congressional fundraising, leadership PACs, public campaign...

    SPECIAL MINI-SERIES

    Another Way To Elect The President

    Another Way brings you a new mini-series that will appear in this feed between now and the 2020 election day: Another Way To Elect The President. This mini-series provides some historical and legal background for what could be a presidential election unlike any other. Stay tuned for additional episodes.

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: Election Follow-Up

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: Election Follow-Up Description: In this final episode of "Another Way to Elect the President," we consider whether Trump's lawyers could successfully contest the election results. We pick apart their legal cases and the facts...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Live Election (and Beyond!) Special

    Title Live Election (and Beyond!) Special Description: In our election day special, we bring you a recording of our live conversation from October 30. We talked about the worries of this election day, but we also looked beyond the election to discuss the policy...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: Jumping The Shark

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: Jumping The Shark Description: In this last episode in our mini-series, we bat around a few outrageous scenarios. Will votes be tossed out en masse? Can the House just refuse to count any votes at all? Find out! Music: Roundpine...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: The VP’s Role (Part 9)

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: The VP's Role (Part 9) Description: In this last regular episode of our mini-series about the road to selecting a president, we are joined by David Fontana of GW Law to talk about the Vice President. What role does the...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: Contingent Elections (Part 8)

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: Contingent Elections (Part 8) Description: In today's episode of the mini-series, we discuss the House contingent election. It hasn't happened since 1824, but could it this year? What could trigger it? And what would happen if...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: The Death of a Candidate (Part 7)

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: The Death of a Candidate (Part 7) Description: In this episode in our mini-series, we answer the question: what happens if a candidate dies right before or after the popular vote? The answer: it could get complicated. For more...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Another Way To Elect A President: The Electoral Count Act (Part 6)

    Title Another Way To Elect A President: The Electoral Count Act (Part 6) Description: In this episode, we speak with Professor Stephen Siegel, a Professor of Law at DePaul University, about the Electoral Count Act, which sets the rules for Congress when it counts...

    PAST EPISODES

    Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang

    Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang

    Title Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Professor Sam Wang, founder of the Princeton Gerrymandering Project. The two discuss the inequalities produced by gerrymandering and the Electoral College, the...

    “George”: A conversation with the other side

    “George”: A conversation with the other side

    Title “George”: A conversation with the other side This episode of Another Way is unique: Lessig speaks to a Trump-supporting friend, whose name has been changed and voice altered to allow the friend to speak without the burdens his views might create in his world....

    Unpacking America with Rob Sand

    Unpacking America with Rob Sand

    Title Unpacking America with Rob Sand On this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Rob Sand, who has served as Iowa's State Auditor since 2019. The two discuss Sand's history of investigating white collar crime, the feeling of loss in small town America, and...

    Reform and The Future of the Republican Party

    Reform and The Future of the Republican Party

    Title Reform and The Future of the Republican Party In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Bill Kristol, longtime conservative pundit, about democracy reform and the future of the Republican Party. Become a Patreon subscriber:...

    Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform

    Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform

    Title Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Representative Ro Khanna, who serves California's 17th Congressional district. Rep. Khanna gives listeners a legislative update on the For The People Act, and...

    Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote

    Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote

    Title Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote In this episode, Lawrence Lessig is joined by Guy-Uriel Charles, the Edward and Ellen Schwarzman Professor of Law at Duke Law School. Lessig and Charles explore the differences between H.R. 1 (the For The People...

    The Quest To Understand “The People”

    The Quest To Understand “The People”

    Title The Quest To Understand "The People" On this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Frank Luntz, longtime GOP communications expert. The two discuss the January 6th riots, Trump, our broken system of government, and the news media that divides us. Become a Patreon...

    The Architect of The For The People Act (H.R. 1)

    The Architect of The For The People Act (H.R. 1)

    Title The Architect of The For The People Act (H.R. 1) In this episode, Larry Lessig speaks with Representative John Sarbanes, the architect of the For The People Act (H.R. 1). The two dive into the provisions of this critically important piece of legislation to fix...

    Drawing Inspiration From Alaska

    Drawing Inspiration From Alaska

    Title Drawing Inspiration From Alaska In this episode, Adam Eichen speaks with Scott Kendall and Jason Grenn of Alaskans for Better Elections, the campaign that successfully brought ranked choice voting and top four nonpartisan primaries to Alaska through a ballot...

    The Second Annual Democracy Awards

    The Second Annual Democracy Awards

    Title The Second Annual Democracy Awards Description: On this episode, Jason Harrow and Adam Eichen present the awards for best and worst actors in our democracy. Some award winners will surprise you — and others not so much.... Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions...

    What Do We Make of 2020?

    What Do We Make of 2020?

    Title What Do We Make of 2020? Description: On this episode, Jason Harrow and Adam Eichen discuss their takeaways from 2020. They reflect on how well our democracy withstood COVID-19 and unprecedented attacks by Donald Trump. The two also highlight the importance of...

    ANOTHER WAY STORIES

    Another Way Stories, formerly known as Seasons One and Two of Another Way, was recenlty established as a separate podcast meant to be consumed as a continuous story in chronological order. Please note: the arguments in Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.

    About Another Way Stories

    Can we make ending corruption and strengthening democracy the number one priority in 2020? Can we get to POTUS1?

    That’s the challenge that has inspired this podcast by Equal Citizens founder Lawrence Lessig. In these first two seasons on Another Way, Larry and the Equal Citizens team bring you weekly conversations about what’s wrong with our democracy, how to fix it, and how to get candidates for President talking about those issues so that we can make this issue number one in the campaign. HR1 was a first step. Now we need POTUS1.

    These are the conversation that the politicians aren’t giving us on their own. That’s precisely why we citizens must bring this issue to them. Please join us.

    SEASON ONE

    Introducing: Another Way

    This is Larry Lessig. Anyone paying attention can see that we’re gearing up for a train wreck in 2020, as both political parties map out an increasingly partisan choice for America — as if we are just a nation divided, with nothing that we share in common....

    Episode 1: Aiming for Something Different

    Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions It’s pretty clear how things are going to happen. In January, whatever the outcome in the 2018 election, Democrats are going to begin to vie in earnest to...

    Episode 2: How Different Has Been Done

    Music: Slow Line Stomp by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions Clay Pawn Shop by Blue Dot Sessions Transcript: This is Larry Lessig and this is the second episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

    Episode 3: A Different (Kind of Control of) Congress

    Transcript The single most unrecognized fact in American politics today is not how divided we are, but how united we are. This is Larry Lessig and this is the third episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I described what everyone knows: that...

    Episode 4: A Different Kind of President

    Title: A different kind of President Transcript: In 1864, in the middle of our “great Civil War,” America held a presidential election. Lincoln was President. None were confident, especially his supporters, that he would be re-elected. Indeed without the...

    Episode 5: How America Beats Donald

    Title How America Beats Donald Transcript Drain the swamp and make America great again. Let me repeat it. Drain the swamp and make America great again. ——— This is Larry Lessig and this is the fifth episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

    Episode 6: Why Different When the Same Is So So Easy

    Title: Why different when the same is so so easy Transcript “But why,” the Democratic politicians will insist, “why do we need anything more than simply elect Democrats? What’s the need for a Reform Caucus when the Democratic Party is already committed to...

    SEASON TWO

    *Please note: the arguments in this Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.*

    Introducing: Another Way Stories Season Two

    There’s a scholar, an activist, a leader, a former Labor Secretary, a citizen, and a friend — Robert Reich — who has been trash-talking the idea of a convention to propose amendments to our Constitution. That fact really bothers me.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU...

    S2E1: How Constitutions Get Changed

    The Constitution of the United States specifies the rules for its own amendment. Article V lays out those rules. An amendment must first be proposed and once proposed, adopted or, as the Constitution says, ratified. More than 11,000 amendments have been...

    S2E2: That Conventions Terrify

    This is Larry Lessig, and this is Episode 2 of Season 2 of the podcast Another Way. In the first episode, I described two ways that the Constitution allows that amendments to the Constitution might be proposed. Only one of those two ways of proposing...

    S2E3: Why Conventions Terrify

    “This would be chaos.” An Article V convention would be “chaos.” Or so says the great Robert Reich in the video that has triggered this season of Another Way.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU CAN HELP SUPPORT ANOTHER WAY If you've saved your payment information with...

    S2E4: Why Conventions Should NOT Terrify

    So do we really need an Article V Convention? This should be the only real question that should trouble Americans just now. Do we need a different way to propose amendments to the Constitution? Do we need amendments to our Constitution at all?OTHER...

    S2E5: Why We Need a Convention

    There’s going to be a train wreck unless we act now. A train wreck for the convention movement, and hence, a train wreck for the only reasonable chance that we have to fix our broken Constitution, and hence, a train wreck for this nation.OTHER EPISODESHOW...

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