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    ANOTHER WAY

    Another Way is a weekly podcast about how we can get reforming and improving our democracy front and center. This season, Larry Lessig and the Equal Citizens team will be talking to politicians, authors, activists, and more to bring you in-depth information about the For The People Act, the most significant fair elections bill in generations, and what you can do to help pass it. Subscribe using the tools on this page, or listen to episodes below.

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    LATEST EPISODES

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    No Labels, Polarization, and Reform with Bill Galston

    No Labels, Polarization, and Reform with Bill Galston

    No Labels, Polarization, and Reform with Bill GalstonAfter a hiatus, Another Way is back! In this episode, Larry Lessig speaks with Bill Galson, a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and Co-Founder of No Labels. The two discuss the origins of No Labels, the...

    No Labels, Polarization, and Reform with Bill Galston

    Discussing The John Eastman Memo with John Eastman

    Discussing The John Eastman Memo with John EastmanOn this special episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig and Matthew Seligman speak to John Eastman, former Chapman University law school professor and lawyer who represented former President Donald Trump in 2020...

    PAST EPISODES

    An Update on H.R. 1 from Rep. Mondaire Jones

    An Update on H.R. 1 from Rep. Mondaire Jones

    Title An Update on H.R. 1 from Rep. Mondaire Jones In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks to U.S. Representative Mondaire Jones. They discuss Rep. Jones' first few months as a member of Congress, the latest on H.R. 1, the need for a Third Reconstruction, and the...

    The Quest To Understand “The People” with Frank Luntz (Part Two)

    The Quest To Understand “The People” with Frank Luntz (Part Two)

    Title The Quest To Understand "The People" with Frank Luntz (Part Two) On this episode, Larry Lessig speaks again to Frank Luntz, longtime GOP communications expert. The two discuss the meaning of truth in politics, how to combat lies about the 2020 election, whether...

    Exploring The Informational Ecosystem with Jimmy Wales

    Exploring The Informational Ecosystem with Jimmy Wales

    Title Exploring The Informational Ecosystem with Jimmy Wales On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and wt.social. Lessig and Wales discuss the origins of Wikipedia, its architecture, and its ad-free commitment to...

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

    Title The Fight For Voting Rights Reform For this week's episode, we are re-broadcasting the audio of an Equal Citizens event held on March 31st, 2021 entitled, "The Fight For Voting Rights Reform: The Path To H.R. 1 and H.R. 4". The event featured Lawrence Lessig...

    Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman

    Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman

    Title Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman Lawrence Lessig speaks with Lee Drutman, senior fellow in the Political Reform program at New America. The two discuss the history of the U.S. political party system, polarization and partisanship, reform, and...

    Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp

    Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp

    Title Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Weston Wamp, senior political strategist for Issue One and host of the podcast, Swamp Stories. The two discuss congressional fundraising, leadership PACs, public campaign...

    Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang

    Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang

    Title Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Professor Sam Wang, founder of the Princeton Gerrymandering Project. The two discuss the inequalities produced by gerrymandering and the Electoral College, the...

    “George”: A conversation with the other side

    “George”: A conversation with the other side

    Title “George”: A conversation with the other side This episode of Another Way is unique: Lessig speaks to a Trump-supporting friend, whose name has been changed and voice altered to allow the friend to speak without the burdens his views might create in his world....

    Unpacking America with Rob Sand

    Unpacking America with Rob Sand

    Title Unpacking America with Rob Sand On this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Rob Sand, who has served as Iowa's State Auditor since 2019. The two discuss Sand's history of investigating white collar crime, the feeling of loss in small town America, and...

    Reform and The Future of the Republican Party

    Reform and The Future of the Republican Party

    Title Reform and The Future of the Republican Party In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Bill Kristol, longtime conservative pundit, about democracy reform and the future of the Republican Party. Become a Patreon subscriber:...

    Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform

    Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform

    Title Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Representative Ro Khanna, who serves California's 17th Congressional district. Rep. Khanna gives listeners a legislative update on the For The People Act, and...

    Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote

    Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote

    Title Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote In this episode, Lawrence Lessig is joined by Guy-Uriel Charles, the Edward and Ellen Schwarzman Professor of Law at Duke Law School. Lessig and Charles explore the differences between H.R. 1 (the For The People...

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    SERIES: ANOTHER WAY TO ELECT A PRESIDENT

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    ANOTHER WAY STORIES

    Another Way Stories, formerly known as Seasons One and Two of Another Way, was recenlty established as a separate podcast meant to be consumed as a continuous story in chronological order. Please note: the arguments in Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.

    About Another Way Stories

    Can we make ending corruption and strengthening democracy the number one priority in 2020? Can we get to POTUS1?

    That’s the challenge that has inspired this podcast by Equal Citizens founder Lawrence Lessig. In these first two seasons on Another Way, Larry and the Equal Citizens team bring you weekly conversations about what’s wrong with our democracy, how to fix it, and how to get candidates for President talking about those issues so that we can make this issue number one in the campaign. HR1 was a first step. Now we need POTUS1.

    These are the conversation that the politicians aren’t giving us on their own. That’s precisely why we citizens must bring this issue to them. Please join us.

    SEASON ONE

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    Introducing: Another Way

    This is Larry Lessig. Anyone paying attention can see that we’re gearing up for a train wreck in 2020, as both political parties map out an increasingly partisan choice for America — as if we are just a nation divided, with nothing that we share in common....

    Episode 1: Aiming for Something Different

    Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions It’s pretty clear how things are going to happen. In January, whatever the outcome in the 2018 election, Democrats are going to begin to vie in earnest to...

    Episode 2: How Different Has Been Done

    Music: Slow Line Stomp by Blue Dot Sessions Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions Clay Pawn Shop by Blue Dot Sessions Transcript: This is Larry Lessig and this is the second episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

    Episode 3: A Different (Kind of Control of) Congress

    Transcript The single most unrecognized fact in American politics today is not how divided we are, but how united we are. This is Larry Lessig and this is the third episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I described what everyone knows: that...

    Episode 4: A Different Kind of President

    Title: A different kind of President Transcript: In 1864, in the middle of our “great Civil War,” America held a presidential election. Lincoln was President. None were confident, especially his supporters, that he would be re-elected. Indeed without the...

    Episode 5: How America Beats Donald

    Title How America Beats Donald Transcript Drain the swamp and make America great again. Let me repeat it. Drain the swamp and make America great again. ——— This is Larry Lessig and this is the fifth episode of this podcast, Another Way. In the first, I...

    SEASON TWO

    *Please note: the arguments in this Season Two are rejected by our board member, Robert Reich.*

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    Introducing: Another Way Stories Season Two

    There’s a scholar, an activist, a leader, a former Labor Secretary, a citizen, and a friend — Robert Reich — who has been trash-talking the idea of a convention to propose amendments to our Constitution. That fact really bothers me.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU...

    S2E1: How Constitutions Get Changed

    The Constitution of the United States specifies the rules for its own amendment. Article V lays out those rules. An amendment must first be proposed and once proposed, adopted or, as the Constitution says, ratified. More than 11,000 amendments have been...

    S2E2: That Conventions Terrify

    This is Larry Lessig, and this is Episode 2 of Season 2 of the podcast Another Way. In the first episode, I described two ways that the Constitution allows that amendments to the Constitution might be proposed. Only one of those two ways of proposing...

    S2E3: Why Conventions Terrify

    “This would be chaos.” An Article V convention would be “chaos.” Or so says the great Robert Reich in the video that has triggered this season of Another Way.OTHER EPISODESHOW YOU CAN HELP SUPPORT ANOTHER WAY If you've saved your payment information with...

    S2E4: Why Conventions Should NOT Terrify

    So do we really need an Article V Convention? This should be the only real question that should trouble Americans just now. Do we need a different way to propose amendments to the Constitution? Do we need amendments to our Constitution at all?OTHER...

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